Comments on: A Letter to Mr Abbott (T.G.E – Part 9 of 40) http://www.the-rodeo.com/blog/2006/01/escape-plan-template/ Because illogic is a lifestyle choice. Sat, 29 Oct 2011 19:37:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: spanna-annelise http://www.the-rodeo.com/blog/2006/01/escape-plan-template/comment-page-1/#comment-350 spanna-annelise Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:08:55 +0000 http://www.the-rodeo.com/?p=102#comment-350 <p>thanks callum, thats exactly what i was after you both rock dudes</p> thanks callum, thats exactly what i was after
you both rock dudes

]]> By: Dez! http://www.the-rodeo.com/blog/2006/01/escape-plan-template/comment-page-1/#comment-349 Dez! Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:50:28 +0000 http://www.the-rodeo.com/?p=102#comment-349 <p>Pam Stenzel's Biography if any one is interested.</p> <p>http://www.enlightencom.com/pams_biography.htm</p> <p>D!</p> Pam Stenzel’s Biography if any one is interested.

http://www.enlightencom.com/pams_biography.htm

D!

]]> By: RodeoClown http://www.the-rodeo.com/blog/2006/01/escape-plan-template/comment-page-1/#comment-348 RodeoClown Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:49:56 +0000 http://www.the-rodeo.com/?p=102#comment-348 <p>Thanks for that Dez, I was wondering what your thoughts would be.</p> <p>Good ones, apparently :)</p> Thanks for that Dez,
I was wondering what your thoughts would be.

Good ones, apparently :)

]]> By: Dez! http://www.the-rodeo.com/blog/2006/01/escape-plan-template/comment-page-1/#comment-347 Dez! Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:46:59 +0000 http://www.the-rodeo.com/?p=102#comment-347 <p>Hi,</p> <p>Here goes......</p> <p>I feel VERY VERY VERY strongly about this issue. </p> <p>I was adopted by my parents whe I was about 3-4 weeks old. I would like to start by saying that I love my parents both very much and wouldn't trade them for anything.</p> <p>A few years ago I watched a video by Pam Stenzel (I can't link to her website but it is www.pamstenzel.com) Anyway long story short her mother was raped and as a result she was born. If you can ever hear her speak or watch a video of hers I recommend it.</p> <p>Anyway, what I realised from that video is what it must have been like for my biological mum (bio mum)to carry me for nine months knowing that she was going to give me away to a better life.</p> <p>My bio mum wasn't raped, her and her boyf were only young and realised that they weren't ready for kids but rather than taking the "easy" option (I realise it is not an easy choice but for the sake of the arguement. No intention to offend) She <strong>LOVED ME ENOUGH</strong> to carry me for 9 months KNOWING that she was going to give me away.</p> <p>Anyway watching that Pam Stenzel video was one of the most profound days of my life when I realised the <strong>LOVE</strong> she had for me. (Bio mum not Pam Stenzel!!)</p> <p>These things have become even more real after having a child myself, well Lisa had her, but you know what I mean. I couldn't imagine going through nine months of watching her grow and kick and move and be cute just to know that I would have to give her away.</p> <p>I realise I am rambling a bit but the point I want everyone to realise is that if my bio mum had had an abortion I would not be here.</p> <p>The issue of babies from rape is a curly one and again with no intention to offend anyone having never been in the situation myself, I think that I would take a fair bit of convincing that abortion if the best solution.</p> <p>D!</p> <p>Dez!<em> Wouldn't be here if his bio mum had an abortion</em></p> Hi,

Here goes……

I feel VERY VERY VERY strongly about this issue.

I was adopted by my parents whe I was about 3-4 weeks old. I would like to start by saying that I love my parents both very much and wouldn’t trade them for anything.

A few years ago I watched a video by Pam Stenzel (I can’t link to her website but it is http://www.pamstenzel.com) Anyway long story short her mother was raped and as a result she was born. If you can ever hear her speak or watch a video of hers I recommend it.

Anyway, what I realised from that video is what it must have been like for my biological mum (bio mum)to carry me for nine months knowing that she was going to give me away to a better life.

My bio mum wasn’t raped, her and her boyf were only young and realised that they weren’t ready for kids but rather than taking the “easy” option (I realise it is not an easy choice but for the sake of the arguement. No intention to offend) She LOVED ME ENOUGH to carry me for 9 months KNOWING that she was going to give me away.

Anyway watching that Pam Stenzel video was one of the most profound days of my life when I realised the LOVE she had for me. (Bio mum not Pam Stenzel!!)

These things have become even more real after having a child myself, well Lisa had her, but you know what I mean. I couldn’t imagine going through nine months of watching her grow and kick and move and be cute just to know that I would have to give her away.

I realise I am rambling a bit but the point I want everyone to realise is that if my bio mum had had an abortion I would not be here.

The issue of babies from rape is a curly one and again with no intention to offend anyone having never been in the situation myself, I think that I would take a fair bit of convincing that abortion if the best solution.

D!

Dez! Wouldn’t be here if his bio mum had an abortion

]]> By: RodeoClown http://www.the-rodeo.com/blog/2006/01/escape-plan-template/comment-page-1/#comment-346 RodeoClown Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:45:26 +0000 http://www.the-rodeo.com/?p=102#comment-346 <p>Also, I've turned off markdown (the thing that let you use underscores etc to make things italics). Just use the buttons at the top of the comment box to do it now.</p> Also, I’ve turned off markdown (the thing that let you use underscores etc to make things italics). Just use the buttons at the top of the comment box to do it now.

]]> By: RodeoClown http://www.the-rodeo.com/blog/2006/01/escape-plan-template/comment-page-1/#comment-345 RodeoClown Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:44:27 +0000 http://www.the-rodeo.com/?p=102#comment-345 <p>Hi Annelise, that's a fair enough question. </p> <p>The <em>vast</em> majority of abortions have nothing to do with rape, and everything to do with women having sex with men they don't want to have babies with, or men having sex with women and then forcing them to have an abortion when they get pregnant. It is very rare that a woman who is raped gets pregnant (most of the time the rapist does not actually leave any sperm in the woman). I can dig up the research on this if you want, or you can just take my word for it.</p> <p>That being said, I think in that case that the individual situation should be taken into account, but I still don't think it's right that a child should be killed because of the father's wrongdoing. I can understand why the mother may want an abortion, but I think they should still be given the option to not.</p> Hi Annelise, that’s a fair enough question.

The vast majority of abortions have nothing to do with rape, and everything to do with women having sex with men they don’t want to have babies with, or men having sex with women and then forcing them to have an abortion when they get pregnant. It is very rare that a woman who is raped gets pregnant (most of the time the rapist does not actually leave any sperm in the woman). I can dig up the research on this if you want, or you can just take my word for it.

That being said, I think in that case that the individual situation should be taken into account, but I still don’t think it’s right that a child should be killed because of the father’s wrongdoing. I can understand why the mother may want an abortion, but I think they should still be given the option to not.

]]> By: spanna-annelise http://www.the-rodeo.com/blog/2006/01/escape-plan-template/comment-page-1/#comment-342 spanna-annelise Sun, 15 Jan 2006 10:50:06 +0000 http://www.the-rodeo.com/?p=102#comment-342 <p>i hyave a question, and dont get me wrong, i'm totally against abortion on all levels, but what do you say to a woman whose fallen pregnant thru circumstances like rape? <em>spanna has her thoughts but she's obviously never been in that situation, but its an issue that we sadly have to face</em></p> i hyave a question, and dont get me wrong, i’m totally against abortion on all levels, but what do you say to a woman whose fallen pregnant thru circumstances like rape?
spanna has her thoughts but she’s obviously never been in that situation, but its an issue that we sadly have to face

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